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JF

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Posted - September 30 2017 :  12:13:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tomorrow is October 1, so I will "trot," this out once again. In Albany, I am trying to make a decision as to which Turkey Trot to run. The Troy Turkey Trot is the signature race in the area and it draws the most runners, but the Schenectady Trot has a great course and over 1300 runners.

But, in Buffalo, there is only one choice---an 8 kilometer run from the Y to downtown----are we getting closer to adding a second WNY area trot---and again, like I do every year, should there be--at the very least--a second option?

I prefer not be bashed here --heehee--but would like you input on this, my annual riff.

I will preface everything by saying that I ran in the Buffalo Turkey Trot (The J.Y. Cameron Thanksgiving Day Run) from 1985-2001. In that 17 year span, I only missed one race (1988, injury), meaning I ran in 16 trots.

I moved to Albany in 2001 (still went back to WNY for 2001 race) and this year will be my 16th Albany area trot, meaning in 2018 (God willing) Albany will take the lead in Turkey Trots run by 17-16. That makes me feel old, sad, happy and many things in between.

The main reason I call for a second Buffalo trot is because of the old thing. The big Albany area trots are all 5Ks and today, I would struggle in a race longer than 5K. But, that's me. With 14,000 runners in the Buffalo trot, I still believe that there are those who would prefer a 5K and less numbers.

Again, your opinions are welcome.

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JF

2694 Posts

Posted - October 01 2017 :  08:16:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nobody thinks a 5K Turkey Trot option would be a good idea????

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jimnyc75

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Posted - October 01 2017 :  18:37:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I tried searching for the details, but was unsuccessful. So I am relying only on (hazy) memory, but I thought there was another Thanksgiving day race in the 1980s, perhaps in Cheektowaga. There was also a race around Thanksgiving that started near the Broadway Market either the Friday or Saturday after Thanksgiving. It was in the late 1970s because then Mayor Stan Makowski was the official starter.

Nether race exists currently to my knowledge, for a couple of reasons, I believe. 1. Tough to go up against a well-known, historical and long-running event. The Turkey Trot has too many things going for it. 2. A new race would need sponsors and at least something, or things, that made it stand out as unique. Not sure a shorter distance is enough to make a compelling case to run it. 3. Organizing and putting on a race take a lot of time and energy. I don't know how many people would want to give up a large part of a family day to challenge such a well-established event.

having said all the above, I wonder what kind of event you evision that would serve as a realistic alternative to the Trot.
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Admin

248 Posts

Posted - October 02 2017 :  07:39:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jim is correct. We've done that before.

One good example is The "Lancaster/Depew Boys & Girls Club Turkey Trot". It was a 5K at the Westwood Park in Lancaster. It was conducted for 28 years on Thanksgiving day. The last event, AFIK, was in 2004. They even had a cool feature: Top finishers got a big frozen turkey.

You really can not expect a common 5K to compete against the Big Show. The real TT is like a fabulous mobile party. If you're looking for great competition -- that's where it will be; If you're looking for friends and comeraderie... that's where it will be! At the "real" Turkey Trot.

We'd be hard-pressed to legitimately justify the creation of an alternative local event in the same time slot.

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plpjap

130 Posts

Posted - October 02 2017 :  10:07:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not a 5K but another choice -

https://d368g9lw5ileu7.cloudfront.net/races/race50781_event183155_reg.bzUCtG.pdf
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JF

2694 Posts

Posted - October 02 2017 :  17:47:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For many years the Lancaster Trot was the Saturday before Thanksgiving and the Broadway Market was the Saturday after.

The Niagara Falls Festival of Lights 5k was also the Saturday before.

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Shirfan

62 Posts

Posted - October 04 2017 :  06:18:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
THE Turkey Trot is on every Thanksgiving Day, just as THE Boston Marathon is on every Patriots Day. You just don't compete with institutions.

HOWEVER.
The Mighty Mile is on Black Friday.
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buffalogal

82 Posts

Posted - October 04 2017 :  07:05:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shirfan

HOWEVER.
The Mighty Mile is on Black Friday.



I do like the idea of a Black Friday race. Nothing much else to do except shop and eat leftovers. It gets my vote!
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Rano

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Posted - October 05 2017 :  10:19:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is a small 5k Turkey Trot that the Cattaraugus Volunteer Fire Company has hosted for the last 4 years (2013-2016). It goes from the fireman's park to Cattaraugus-Little Valley High School, one lap around the track, and then back to the fireman's park. Fun for the southtowners who have to cook the big meal that day, but unfortunately not highly publicized or posted on BuffaloRunners.com

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Rano

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Posted - November 13 2017 :  10:50:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Follow up info: sadly, the Turkey Trot in Cattaraugus, NY is cancelled this year (after running for the last four years).

Other options in the Southtowns are a 5k turkey trot in Irving, NY at the Seneca Cattaraugus Community Center on Wednesday Nov 22 at 10am or the Springville Gobble for Groceries 5k on Thanksgiving Day at 9am.

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JF

2694 Posts

Posted - November 13 2017 :  19:47:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is one! http://www.cfteamnatalie.com/cfturkeytrot.html

I will use Grand Island (my hometown) as the reference point. From the Island to Wyoming--60 miles--definitely a doable trip with little traffic on Thanksgiving morning----still not WNY proper per se, but a viable alternative.

$25 pre/$30 day of race---which sadly seems to be going away at the big races----let the people register on race day!



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JF

2694 Posts

Posted - November 26 2017 :  05:39:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
373 finishers in Wyoming!

http://www.cfteamnatalie.com/cfturkeytrot.html



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