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autisticfather

320 Posts

Posted - September 10 2012 :  19:07:10  Show Profile
Any predictions ? Grand Island lost very few seniors last year and both(boys and girls) teams are both very much improved. The girls especially so and are a strong threat to capture first in the Niagara Frontier League. Dethroning Clarence and/or East Aurora( boys or girls) will continue to be a difficult challenge for anyone.

RunnerXC

233 Posts

Posted - September 13 2012 :  22:00:28  Show Profile
Starpoint will be strong again this yr...
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runnerbuffalo

12 Posts

Posted - September 17 2012 :  19:37:53  Show Profile
Sweet Home girls will win class B beating East Aurora
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jeanne

233 Posts

Posted - September 28 2012 :  13:42:16  Show Profile
As always, Lockport looks great!!
It is unfortunate that The Buffalo News does not recognize any NFL teams. Not only in XC, but in any sport other than football.
As I mentioned last fall, Bob Eberhardt gets his 500th victory and there is no mention.
I understand the ECIC is bigger. I have never received a call or email from any media source to give any of my kids any recognition. It is truly sad.
Good luck to all XC teams! These kids work so hard. I wish them nothing but the best!!!

jeanne
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autisticfather

320 Posts

Posted - October 13 2012 :  07:07:01  Show Profile
Exhibit A; This past Tuesday`s showdown for first place in both boys and girls in the Niagara Frontier League (Lockport and Grand Island) was ignored by every media outlet in the area.
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jeanne

233 Posts

Posted - October 17 2012 :  13:47:26  Show Profile
What I observe is that the media could care less about anything but football in the fall and basketball in the winter.
When The Buffalo News is called with results, the sports employee on duty will only take the winner of the boy's and girl's race. Last year, one was able to give each team's top finisher.
Why, then, in basketball do we see all names of everyone who played in the box score, even if she/he contributed little or nothing?
What will it take for XC and other sports to get the respect it deserves?
This sport is all about the kids. Why can't local media outlets contact coaches about the kids and interview them? We have runners in local sports departments. What gives? Should they not cover a sport which can be performed, even at a mediocre level, by just about anyone?
I have kids on my team who had never run a step for joining XC. All kids should get a chance to participate in a sport. Some of these kids have become true 'diamonds in the rough' and some, not. What I hope to do is give these kids a chance to try something new. I want them to look back in their adult lives with fond memories of an activity they enjoyed. Ours is a lifetime sport. Who knows what influence we may make for their futures?
I would much rather coach the type of kid who wants to truly be there and learn a sport with a good attitude than one who is just there because she/he is being pressured by parents or trying to get their way in to college through athletics. The chances of these types of kids pursuing a sport they are forced into doing is minimal.
All Xc athletes are real athletes!! it is a tough sport for tough kids! They all deserve credit for what they do day in and day out!!!


jeanne
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JR

237 Posts

Posted - October 18 2012 :  10:41:19  Show Profile
It's time for everyone to start thinking out of the box and realize that the legacy print media is never going to be what it was. Stop depending on the News or other print media to disseminate information. Be creative and start using the web to its fullest potential. It seems today all everyone does is post race schedules, plain old results, and maybe on a forum there will be a few comments.

How about start a news aggregator yourselves, perhaps even via this site. A good running news aggregator could use a format similar to the Drudge Report where you headline an article, and link to the detail. So each and every race director, XC Invitational race director, or high school coach can write their own articles and have them headlined and linked. Include video clips of the race or pre or post race interviews with the runners. How about an analysis of the race, not just results. Who led at the mile, when did the leader break away? Let some of the kids write articles.

Do something that creates interest and readers will come. Stop living in the past and start using the new media.


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Npage148

152 Posts

Posted - October 18 2012 :  13:46:01  Show Profile
When I ran in HS, we had the section2harrier.com which was pretty much a complete source of projections, rosters, and results from XC, indoor and outdoor. It was a nice place to see all the results piled up.

it was like http://www.section6runs.com/ but more cut to only have pertinent information. IMO, this is much better than trying to get truncated results in the News
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jeanne

233 Posts

Posted - October 19 2012 :  08:56:30  Show Profile
Great ideas. I wish I had the time and computer knowledge to implement them.
Yes, section6runs is an excellent site. But there is nothing like having one's name printed in the paper for everyone to see. Some kids 'scrapbook'. It is nice to get recognition from peers, etc., when they see your name in the paper and say something about it to you.
I understand the points you make. They are great. I just believe some equity is in order. You are right. It isn't going to happen. How sad!

jeanne
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autisticfather

320 Posts

Posted - October 22 2012 :  09:30:12  Show Profile
Channels 2,4 and 7 spend a minimum of 2 hrs. every morning repeating the previous days stories several times over and then again between 5 and 6:30. WGR (24 hr. sports) has one hour a week for the high schools; last spring while driving to the far west regionals(girls basketball)featuring Grand Island and then Lockport, they were never mentioned once, I listened the entire hour.
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NSWC

95 Posts

Posted - October 31 2012 :  14:26:04  Show Profile
Who wants to read about cross country except for the people that were already at the race?

People are interested in basketball and football and thats why they are in the paper. The paper isn't going to waste space on something that no one cares about. I'm a runner and I'm not even interested in reading about it. Imagine how little interest the rest of the public has..
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Melody

31 Posts

Posted - November 01 2012 :  12:06:33  Show Profile
I disagree, as a parent of two cross country runners, there's nothing more exciting than seeing your name in the paper....except perhaps crossing that finish line first! As young athletes, having people recognize your name, your accomplishments and congratulating you is a major high! Especially given that in their own perspective schools cross country teams and their stats take second fiddle to football and soccer.
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NSWC

95 Posts

Posted - November 01 2012 :  13:20:25  Show Profile
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Originally posted by Melody

I disagree, as a parent of two cross country runners, there's nothing more exciting than seeing your name in the paper....except perhaps crossing that finish line first! As young athletes, having people recognize your name, your accomplishments and congratulating you is a major high! Especially given that in their own perspective schools cross country teams and their stats take second fiddle to football and soccer.



I don't disagree, but see my point about the only people caring are the ones already at the meet (assuming you go to your kids meets). And while I am sure it does make people feel good about themselves, is that really the papers job? Personally I think their role is to provide news that people are interested in reading about. High school cross country is pretty far down on the list. Right next to weekly bowling results which for some reason they still publish.
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Derek NF

175 Posts

Posted - November 01 2012 :  21:56:14  Show Profile
I don't know much about how newspapers are run but I would think publishing anything about locals would help sell newspapers. In my local newspaper they put in Little league baseball and football. I know many parents buy the paper specifically to read their child's name in the paper.
Personally, I am a fan of all sports, especially local sports. I didn't get into running until I was an adult but would read the cross-country results when they were posted in my paper well before I was a runner. Same with bowling (probably in the minority) just out of curiosity.

I will say one problem with the CC coverage in my local newspaper is they only put the team/meet scores in. This means nothing to me and I am now a runner. I want to know the time and distance. For the average person reading the newspaper, pace would be even better. That way, someone that appreciates athletics in general can relate.

My paper even has a HS CC runner of the year. What they fail to do is talk about the year round training it takes to be a competitive runner. I believe readers would follow more closely if they new what goes into being a competitive runner as well as what I previously stated, IMO.
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autisticfather

320 Posts

Posted - November 02 2012 :  07:37:48  Show Profile
Maybe the Niagara Gazette has it`s shortcomings, but it`s the Rolls-Royce of high school sports coverage in WNY. Is it really neccesary for the Buffalo News to spend five pages every Monday with da bills won, da bills lost, da bills won, da bills lost, da bills won, da bills lost...............
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jeanne

233 Posts

Posted - November 05 2012 :  13:56:26  Show Profile
I am not interested in HS football or basketball as much as the 'real' sports, as XC, swimming,and any sport that is truly a 'life time sport'.
What a shame that a runner has such a non-chalant attitude toward a great sport that requires great self-motivation and hard work. One would think that a runner would know that.

jeanne
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autisticfather

320 Posts

Posted - November 05 2012 :  20:54:20  Show Profile
Does anyone know what happened to the Cross Country runner from Lake Shore who suffered a concussion on Friday (Elma Meadows). His Mother told me she had to drive him to a hospital in a hurry ?
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